War in Europe

…. again…. Russia invaded the Ukraine today. When will people ever learn to not make war? And how can Vladimir Putin be stopped? I despair.

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  1. Servetus

    I know it’s a rhetorical question, but I think the only answers to stopping Putin involve somehow separating him from the Chinese, and increasing the pain to his oligarchic circle. He doesn’t care about death and destruction, but he does care desperately about looking weak.

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    1. I hope the sanctions they want to impose will hurt his inner circle enough but somehow I doubt it. And China sounds like they still like Putin, so to me it looks like there is no end of Putin in sight. These pompous, self-serving, ‘strong’ men are just sickening. We have too many of those going around right now. Ugh.

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      1. Servetus

        China is the reason he’s going to survive this economically. (Another one of those moments that looks like the Cold War.)

        I wonder if there would ever be enough will to get Russia off the Security Council. Watching the Russian rep’s justifications the last few days has also been sickening, and they are no longer a major world power, if China’s gotta bankroll their wars.

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    1. It’s so distressful and scary! In the back of my mind I hear yet again Ingrid Bergman’s world-weary voice in “The Inn of the SIxth Happiness” saying, “They’ll fight. People are always ready to fight…”

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  2. The truth is nothing can stop crazy dictators, only their own people. Sadly dictators are always helping each other… as we see today too. I can only see a solution where things in Russia for people become so difficult they finally decide to get rid of him… but that will be too late for Ukraine I fear. This is not just about peace,but about democracy.

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    1. Servetus

      I was sort of surprised that there were anti-war demonstrations *in* Russia yesterday. Of course, this is the kind of thing that our news is likely to magnify. 1800 arrests. But they’d need a million people or more to protest before Putin would take notice.

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      1. I think opposition forces have started a petition where thousands of signatures have been collected ( said tonight by petition starters on BBC news) but it’s very hard to verify tbh. Also sadly in reality the streets would literally need to fill with people for days on end, resisting continous arrests and crack downs from police and military to move Putin internally. I fear many people have been fed his cool aid for far too long to oppose him. We saw what happened in Belarus just a little while ago.. I know what it was like in Eastern Europe when things came to a breaking point… I don’t think the Russian population is as united against his policies as we would like to hope. I’ve seen news reporters in recent times interviewing people there and in ‘other’ parts of the world and it’s shocking to what degree they buy into the governmental propaganda and the idea that the West is their enemy, etc the propaganda was exactly the same in Communist countries, but you wouldn’t have been able to find a single person who believed any of the lies. And that makes all the difference 😦

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        1. Servetus

          NPR did a segment here on what Russian immigrants think about the Russian propaganda — and apparently there’s a generational divide and the older generation believes it! It kind of shocked me just because that is mostly people who actually fled the USSR.

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    1. The thing is, what can really be done without policing the world from a Western point of view? If he attacks NATO then US and European response can be clear. Yes, sanctions, and we can try to ostracise Russia but other than that, as Hariclea says, it needs to also come from within. As long as the people allow the Putins of this world to come to power and to remain in power it is difficult to stop them.

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      1. The people in Ukraine are powerless. I think the outside world especially Europe and US need to intervene and I’m not for policing the world at all but look how he succeeded in Crimea
        If you don’t tell down a bully they will keep on bullying and he’s a huge bully in the world imo

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          1. It cannot be just from the West, the Russian people and all of Europe need to apply pressure, if not, he’ll just continue on is “ego trip” and invade where and when he wants… I was surprised to see the Russian people protesting in the streets, it needs to increase and more need to take part.. I don’t think it will deter him, but it will make this egotistical man sit up and take notice.. The images coming out of that region are heartbreaking… I pray for those in the Ukraine, such a horrible situation…

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          2. Me too! I don’t advocate policing because I think US has gotten into trouble too many times acting as a superior power but here honestly who else is going to intervene? The Ukrainian people need assistance I just don’t think it can come from within or else this wouldn’t be happening now with the air strikes and boots on the ground 😟😣

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            1. There is so much at risk with a direct military intervention. Pitting two super (nuclear) powers against each other can easily escalate in something horrible on an even grander scale. I don’t know what the right thing to do is here, military action or other actions, but I don’t want this to escalate into a World War III!

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              1. No but don’t the Russian forces have Chenobyl seized? I read tonight many are fleeing to neighboring Monrovia
                Trying to reason with Putin is fruitless too and what if he then begins to steam roll another neighbor? Trust me I realize the hypocrisy here because idiot Bush Illegally Invaded Iraq in 2003 and went unopposed

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            2. I agree, the USA should not be involved as far as boots on the ground, it could quickly escalate into a full scale war..its a tricky position to be in, sanctions first, freeze monies, assets and trade… Unfortunately innocents get caught in the middle no matter what happens .. The man needs to disappear and that full of a tooke trump with him..

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              1. Unfortunately Putin isn’t going anywhere and if there is no intervention soon things will become catastrophic
                At this point sanctions aren’t enough. I think this invasion was well planned and you are right it is in a highly tricky position to be in especially since US policy is very hypocritical regarding invasions

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